@DoomsdaysCW I live in a small town in Mass. and our highway dept. decided to carry its own arbor crew, and they are taking down roadside ashes by the hundreds over three years. I had a 105 year old one that went real fast in one year after a few years of struggling. But new shoots are out anyway. It's entered an infinite loop of never reaching maturity. Wow. There's hope if we watch for the rare ones! Act like REAL stewards.